e2m3_305 by Nolan Pflug Map: e2m3 Skill: Nightmare Kills: 48/48 Secrets: 4/4 Time: 3:05 I think the time lost by going back to get the 100 nails at the start is regained by the time you save by killing monsters with those nails, instead of with the shotgun. I also exited with 0 nails. I don't visit the Dopefish, or use the secret exit, because those aren't "official" secrets, and it would take too much time. So why is my total kills 48 when yours is 54? Well there are 6 fish, and normally fish are counted twice in the total kills, but I got a progs.dat to fix the fish bug (this is why all my demos have 10385 CRC) It's at ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/quake/quakec/misc/prog106a.zip For the current times of the Nightmare speed demos, go to my page at: http://fyi.net/~nolan/demos.html Nolan Pflug a.k.a. Lord of Radix nolan@fyi.net