e4m4_504 by Nolan Pflug Map: e4m4 Skill: Nightmare Kills: 78/78 Secrets: 5/5 Time: 5:04 This level turned out to be much more than I bargained for. I knew it was going to be tough, with 5 shamblers and almost 30 fiends. But I figured it would be easier than other ep4 levels because weapons 3 through 6 are all there, along with a quad, 2 ring of shadows, and 2 pents. Well, with my first route is wasn't very hard, but it was slow. With each new faster route that I came up with it got harder, and this route had 2 grenade jumps in it, instead of just the one. BTW, my first time with my first route was 9:48, so this is almost twice as fast! So why is my total kills 78 when yours is 87? Well there are 9 fish, and normally fish are counted twice in the total kills, but I got a progs.dat to fix the fish bug (this is why all my demos have 10385 CRC) It's at ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/quake/quakec/misc/prog106a.zip For the current times of the Nightmare speed demos, go to my page at: http://fyi.net/~nolan/demos.html Nolan Pflug a.k.a. Lord of Radix nolan@fyi.net